thanx for circulating,
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Thomas Mathew <thomasmathew47@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Now a days the struggle for OROP by the ex-service men is in the news. Many do not have much idea about it. This write up which came to my inbox from a veteran is circulated for information of allT. MAerial View
Tuesday, 8 September 2015
Why is the Print Media losing its Objectivity?
TV anchors need the shouting, screaming and more to make sure nobody switches channels to watch Wimbledon, or a F-1 race, or even a replay of when India last beat whatever (Zimbabwe, Ireland etc don't qualify!). But the print media has the time to research and Satyam Ev Jayate. But...............Dear Shri Rajeev Deshpande,Having read your write-up datelined 07 Sep 2015 in Times of India, which I thought would not sensationalise and use facts to state its position. Alas...how the mighty have fallen!I felt the need to rebut some of your observations/opinions with simply, the facts.(A) Terms & Conditions of Service: - Perusal of the Indian Army, Navy or Air Force websites will show you that there is no mention of Personnel Policies i.e the Promotion Boards, the ratios for each Branch and each rank etc.2. Till 16 Dec 2004, Major & equivalents in Navy and Air Force were empanelled for promotion to Lt Col & equivalents in their 17th or 18th year of service and promoted, if found fit. Every officer who was found unfit for promotion was empanelled in the next two consecutive years.3. If he was not promoted in the 3rd Promotion Board, he was considered Permanently passed over and the Army, Navy or the Air Force, with the approval of the MoD i.e Govt of India, gave him the option of continuing in that rank till he attained the age of superannuation/retirement for that rank or leave the Service. Costs of training, foreign deputations (of as less as 6 months with UN missions) were all added to the costs before the officer or OR/JCO was given the freedom of being an Indian citizen not incarcerated by the Army/Navy/Air Force Acts, 1950.4. After 16 Dec 2004, on the recommendations of the Ajai Vikram Singh Committee constituted by Mod/GoI, Majors were promoted to Lt Col in the 14th year of service, being empanelled by Promotion Boards, providing he/they achieved a Minimum Performance Rating and there weren't any disciplinary, vigilance or security bars.5. After 16 Dec 2004, a Lt Col empanelled for promotion in the 22nd, 23rd and 24th years of service and not promoted to Colonel was promoted to time scale Colonel in the 26th year of service subject to restriction enumerated in S No. 4 above.(B) Opting Out or seeking Premature Release (PR): - Every officer or OR has the option, approved no less by GoI/MoD and subject to the terms and conditions in the PR (HR) policy to leave the Service.Many do because they find themselves working under and being accountable to officers who are years junior in service. The opting out officers and ORs are in the ages of 37 to 50. Their children are going into professional colleges which charge a bomb/donations as fees etc. Pension, being just 50% of last pay drawn + grade pay + military service pay, is often inadequate to meet payments of rent, children education, and least important maintaining a life style that they did while in service (20 litres of petrol in the car!) when they had the Pay + GP + MSP.(C) Pension for Prematurely retired Personnel: - Defence Services Regulations 2008 (as amended) and Army Pension Rules 2008 (as amended) determine all issues of Pension. You may access it on PCDA (P) website.In Section 5 of the above, you will find the different types of pensions, the ones germane to this issue is the retiring pension (paid at the time of retiring) and the Service pension, paid for serving in the Armed Forces. There is nothing like Pension after Pre-mature Release!In Section 9 (b) you will find the reasons that the Govt of India can withhold (as they are doing part of the pension that forms a part of OROP), suspend or discontinue pension, if the Service personnel has committed an act that constitutes waging war against the Govt of India or is part of a conspiracy which is punishable under Section 121 IPC, when he was in service (emphasis supplied). Please read the full Section 9 (b) to understand that just taking PR does not form part of waging war against the State or is an offence punishable under Section 121 IPC.Just curious, Mr Deshpande, does the Modi Govt want to deprive the widows of officers who opted out with a Pre-mature release? You did not cover this aspect, neither did Mr Modi in his speech in Haryana on the 6th September 2015!(D) Administrative Costs: - From the time any one joins the Defence Forces and for 5 years after his death, or the death of the family pensioner of the deceased, records have to be maintained as per General Financial Rules 2008, Annex I. Therefore, records are maintained and utilised for every payment. There will not be any additional cost than which is already incurred as pay, allowances etc of the Pension Sanctioning Authority (PSA) – the PCDA (Pensions) and the Pension Disbursing Authority – the Public Sector Banks. Incidentally, a majority pf the PSA are already on OROP, thanks to the largess of their own in Min of Fin.A similar plea was entered by MoD in November 2011 in UoI Vs Lt Col N K Nair (retd) in Transfer Petition No. 56 of 2007 and IA No. 9 of 2010 in TP (C) No. 56 of 2007 quoting a loss of Rs 20, 000 croreand was proved to be a fictional excuse.Incidentally, the All India Services records are revised annually so that they do not miss being paid Non-Functional Financial Upgradation (NFU) and are also given a higher Grade Pay. And there are about 4 lakh serving All India Services officers entitled to NFU.(E) Number of Ex-servicemen entering and how many depart: - The MoS, MoD declared on the floor of the Parliament last year that there were 29 lakh ESM. About 60, 000 may enter the ESM category but also an equal number or slightly less pass away.(F) Pension increases of Rs 65000 to Rs 80000: - The actual calculations will show that the increases are between Rs 1500 pm to Rs 9000 per month at 2014 scales.(G) Average Pension: - In the example you have given, are you advocating that a Hav who serves for 16 years and is at the minimum of the pension table (say Rs 12000) should get the pension of a Hav who has served 22 years and is at the maximum of the pension table (say Rs 18000) with the average being Rs 15000/-?Yes it is One Rank but 3 pensions – Minimum, Average, and Maximum!Hopefully,you and all others research and let fly!!
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From: Israni Gurmukh <>
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Sent: Monday, 7 September 2015 3:07 PM
Subject: Some random thoughts on OROP announcement
Dear Veterans,The urgent need of the day is to unite all the ESM organizations and forge ourselves into a force to reckon with. From amongst the stalwarts of the ESM organizations we should form a 'Think Tank' to analyze the problems and come out with a detailed plan. A nationwide seminar could then be organized to not only project the plan so formulated but seek inputs to further refine the plan.As of today, let us all accept that the OROP has Not be given to us as per the Koshiari Committee Report. The announcement by the RM and subsequent so called clarifications by the PM on terms like VRS and PMR (legal and illegal) are as per the well thought out plans / strategy by the Bureaucracy to confuse the ESM, divide the ESM, create classes within categories and help the politicians to use the OROP issue for their forthcoming election in Bihar. The Babus are having the last laugh. How clever they are at playing games can be seen from the way we were fooled in Rank Pay Case, later anomalies of sixth CPC (Please refer to my mail dated 5th September, 2015)"The Red Herrings" thrown in now are VRS, PMR (Pure/ impure/ legal/ illegal) average of maximum and minimum pay-band while deciding the pension, need for one man judicial committee, etc.You will find many more Red Herrings / clauses / contradictory statements in the government letter once it is issued. (Have we not realized that we have not yet received the arrears of pension, from 1/1/2006 to 24/9/ 2012) after the issue of government letter they will be SAI, SNI, SAFI beside of which so called OROP will be implemented !At this stage I suggest that we ask for acceptance of Koshiari Committee Report without any ifs and buts. Exact date of issue of government letter and the procedures of payment of our legitimate dues and clear statement that term VRS was erroneously inserted in the RM's prepared speech. Please read the limerick on "Games Babus Play" below.Games Babus Play,And have their say,Come what may,They must Play,Framing their Own Rules,For there's no dearth of Fools,To be led astray!!"Not over their Dead body,"Is their cry from the Chair,Resting in their Lair,Whether foul or Fair,A' Red Herring' is always There!!Twisting and Turning is a part of their Game,And a "Raison D'etre "of their Fame,In Democratic India,A "Roaring Lion" they can Tame,Using Media but without their Name.In Nineteen seventy three,They took a "Chunk" from the Best,*
To feather their NestDid you not see,How the Best was Laid to Rest ? !The Best must Rise,Like a Phoenix from the Ashes,Reading the comas,stops & dashes,Treading Cautiously and without much AdoTeach the Babus a Lesson or Two,Of the Games They Play,But Without their Say!!SincerelyG.H. Israni
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